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	<title>Comments on: Blog SEO: Beyond Counting Links</title>
	<link>http://www.globalprblogweek.com/2005/09/20/hurlbert-beyond-counting-links/</link>
	<description>September 19-23, 2005 :: Public Relations and Business Communications in the Age of Blogs</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Levin</title>
		<link>http://www.globalprblogweek.com/2005/09/20/hurlbert-beyond-counting-links/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 22:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.globalprblogweek.com/2005/09/20/hurlbert-beyond-counting-links/#comment-277</guid>
		<description>Also consider how each link you ad can dilute the "voting power" of every other link on the page. This applies to both how you vote for other pages in your own blog, and off-site pages. Beware of diluting all your voting-power with you "Blog-role" list of other blog sites that you read. The less extraneous links you provide, the more you're focusing your voting power on the pages that count.

Blogger and TypePad also take very different approaches to creating your internal link structure. These are the "bare minimum" links that it automatically puts in from the archiving system, Previous Posts links and prev/next arrows. Each system is brilliant in influencing search engines in its own way. This internal link structure is the unsung hero of SEO, and a great part of the reason blog sites have almost an unfair advantage in influencing SERPs. Wiki's, while influential in SEO are not particularly more effective than blog software. It could be, but it would take a lot of special configuration. Anyway, SEO is part of PR 2.0, whether the PR industry knows it yet or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also consider how each link you ad can dilute the &#8220;voting power&#8221; of every other link on the page. This applies to both how you vote for other pages in your own blog, and off-site pages. Beware of diluting all your voting-power with you &#8220;Blog-role&#8221; list of other blog sites that you read. The less extraneous links you provide, the more you&#8217;re focusing your voting power on the pages that count.</p>
<p>Blogger and TypePad also take very different approaches to creating your internal link structure. These are the &#8220;bare minimum&#8221; links that it automatically puts in from the archiving system, Previous Posts links and prev/next arrows. Each system is brilliant in influencing search engines in its own way. This internal link structure is the unsung hero of SEO, and a great part of the reason blog sites have almost an unfair advantage in influencing SERPs. Wiki&#8217;s, while influential in SEO are not particularly more effective than blog software. It could be, but it would take a lot of special configuration. Anyway, SEO is part of PR 2.0, whether the PR industry knows it yet or not.</p>
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		<title>By: myclob</title>
		<link>http://www.globalprblogweek.com/2005/09/20/hurlbert-beyond-counting-links/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>myclob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.globalprblogweek.com/2005/09/20/hurlbert-beyond-counting-links/#comment-173</guid>
		<description>Google uses links between web pages as a sort of vote for a web page. So the more web pages that link to you, it's like more people are voting for your web page. But the cool part is that Google doesn't give each link an equal weight. If more websites vote for your website, your website must be good, therefore your links count more.

From a fairness stance it is not very democratic. Everyone does not have an equal vote. But in another sense it is democratic. If you are able to convince other people that your website is good, they will be more likely to link to your website, and this will increase your website's page rank, and therefore your voice. 

I think it would be possible to create an algorithm that substitutes links for reasons to agree. Lets say you have an idea with reasons to agree and reasons to disagree. Each reason to agree would give points to the idea, and each reasons to disagree would take away points. But just like Google, each of these reasons could have different weight, based on how many reasons their are to agree with them. And each of these reasons could have a different weight based on the number of reasons to agree or disagree with them, and so on forever. Just like Google.

I think promoting good ideas is more important than promoting good websites. 

Wiki sites are great because they promise continual improvement and group participation. However, people don’t always agree on what an article should say. The creation of a discussion section has somewhat addressed this problem, giving people an opportunity to list some reasons for an article to read a certain way. But because of formatting this discussion can not be very thorough. I believe we can use the concepts of continual improvement and group participation that already exist in wiki-communities, to better organize the debates in the background of wiki sites. With the number of people using the internet, I believe we could brain storm all or the reasons to agree or disagree with different positions. We could then create a process where the best reasons to agree or disagree would go to the top of their columns, so that each idea had the best reasons to agree or disagree with that idea, in descending order beneath the idea. I believe with continual improvement and analisis the best reasons to agree or disagree will really float to the top of a page. I believe with group participation each perspective can get its chance and logic will rule the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google uses links between web pages as a sort of vote for a web page. So the more web pages that link to you, it&#8217;s like more people are voting for your web page. But the cool part is that Google doesn&#8217;t give each link an equal weight. If more websites vote for your website, your website must be good, therefore your links count more.</p>
<p>From a fairness stance it is not very democratic. Everyone does not have an equal vote. But in another sense it is democratic. If you are able to convince other people that your website is good, they will be more likely to link to your website, and this will increase your website&#8217;s page rank, and therefore your voice. </p>
<p>I think it would be possible to create an algorithm that substitutes links for reasons to agree. Lets say you have an idea with reasons to agree and reasons to disagree. Each reason to agree would give points to the idea, and each reasons to disagree would take away points. But just like Google, each of these reasons could have different weight, based on how many reasons their are to agree with them. And each of these reasons could have a different weight based on the number of reasons to agree or disagree with them, and so on forever. Just like Google.</p>
<p>I think promoting good ideas is more important than promoting good websites. </p>
<p>Wiki sites are great because they promise continual improvement and group participation. However, people don’t always agree on what an article should say. The creation of a discussion section has somewhat addressed this problem, giving people an opportunity to list some reasons for an article to read a certain way. But because of formatting this discussion can not be very thorough. I believe we can use the concepts of continual improvement and group participation that already exist in wiki-communities, to better organize the debates in the background of wiki sites. With the number of people using the internet, I believe we could brain storm all or the reasons to agree or disagree with different positions. We could then create a process where the best reasons to agree or disagree would go to the top of their columns, so that each idea had the best reasons to agree or disagree with that idea, in descending order beneath the idea. I believe with continual improvement and analisis the best reasons to agree or disagree will really float to the top of a page. I believe with group participation each perspective can get its chance and logic will rule the day.</p>
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		<title>By: William Royall</title>
		<link>http://www.globalprblogweek.com/2005/09/20/hurlbert-beyond-counting-links/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>William Royall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.globalprblogweek.com/2005/09/20/hurlbert-beyond-counting-links/#comment-82</guid>
		<description>Correction to my last comment, "Not to mention that sometimes my OFFLINE references add a link to their site."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction to my last comment, &#8220;Not to mention that sometimes my OFFLINE references add a link to their site.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: William Royall</title>
		<link>http://www.globalprblogweek.com/2005/09/20/hurlbert-beyond-counting-links/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>William Royall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.globalprblogweek.com/2005/09/20/hurlbert-beyond-counting-links/#comment-81</guid>
		<description>Besides building your online traffic through SEO, promote your blog OUTSIDE of the internet.  For example, put the address on your business cards, post cards and mailings, on your letter heads, invoices, and basically any physical marketing tool you use for your business.  I run a marketing blog, and although I'm constantly trying to improve my online traffic, my offline generated traffic continuously helps.  (Not to mention that sometimes my online references eventually add a link to a site their running helping yet again my online presence.)  Just a thought.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides building your online traffic through SEO, promote your blog OUTSIDE of the internet.  For example, put the address on your business cards, post cards and mailings, on your letter heads, invoices, and basically any physical marketing tool you use for your business.  I run a marketing blog, and although I&#8217;m constantly trying to improve my online traffic, my offline generated traffic continuously helps.  (Not to mention that sometimes my online references eventually add a link to a site their running helping yet again my online presence.)  Just a thought.  <img src='http://www.globalprblogweek.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Cyclelicious</title>
		<link>http://www.globalprblogweek.com/2005/09/20/hurlbert-beyond-counting-links/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyclelicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.globalprblogweek.com/2005/09/20/hurlbert-beyond-counting-links/#comment-64</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bicycle blog optimization&lt;/strong&gt;

You want to be sure you do it right to maximize the benefit of the time you put into creating your blog, especially as the blogosphere gets more crowded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Bicycle blog optimization</strong></p>
<p>You want to be sure you do it right to maximize the benefit of the time you put into creating your blog, especially as the blogosphere gets more crowded.</p>
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